Things just get groovierPosted by Rick on June 1st, 2004
So when we got back from our honeymoon, we had a letter from Rachel’s session. She’s been barred from the Table. They sent the letter three days before our wedding, and it arrived two days before our wedding. It was graciously kept from us until we got back from our honeymoon.
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June 1st, 2004 at 9:22 am
Hmmm…
I didn’t know Lutheran Churches had sessions. And wouldn’t they be your session too? And what did she do to get barred from the table at her Lutheran Church? Deny consubstantiation?
June 1st, 2004 at 2:43 pm
I was referring to the presbyterian church that still claims her.
Everyone wants her, but everyone doesn’t appreciate her.
June 1st, 2004 at 3:37 pm
Barred from the table? Screw that. How can they say that anyway? Since when are they authoratative? I don’t get it.
June 1st, 2004 at 8:23 pm
Oh. So Rachel is a member in good standing in a Lutheran Church…. and her former church has barred her from the table.
It seems to me that if she is forced to make a rather stark choice. The only way she can honor that “barring” from the table is if she agrees with the session that she is still a member of the Presbyterian Church.
June 1st, 2004 at 8:40 pm
Glad you’re both back, call me whenever you feel like it. *grin* Lord bless.
June 2nd, 2004 at 6:03 am
Oops. Stike the “if” from that first sentence.
June 3rd, 2004 at 2:19 pm
You know, it’s miscarriages of justice like this (which I’ve seen several times in the Reformed world) that make me almost glad that the Anglican churches don’t really discipline. I know that’s jumping from one ditch into the other, but frankly I’m so gun-shy about discipline (having seen it botched so) that I prefer the one ditch to the other.
June 3rd, 2004 at 3:13 pm
I get the point you’re making , Jon, but I think that the *Anglican Church does in fact “do discipline” , just not in the way that Presbyterians do it with courts and trials (except in extreme cases). It’s called the Sacrament of Confession/Reconciliation . We confess our sins to the Lord, the Great Physician of our souls and bodies , with the priest alongside us as our witness and our “nurse practitioner” , administering that medicine that the Great Physician has prescribed .
(can you tell I’m a one time Anglo-Catholic , now Orthodox Christian ? :- )
June 3rd, 2004 at 5:13 pm
Amen, David. I’ve actually argued the same thing recently on a (for lack of a better term) “Reformed catholic” email list, but I don’t think they bought it. They’re still saying things about Anglicans not refusing anyone the Eucharist. Ah well.
I’m actually an Anglican myself, coming from a Reformed background, and the church I’m a member of currently [ http://gracechurchmonroe.org ] is 60/40 Anglo-Catholic/Evangelical, trying to maintain an orthodox witness in the ECUSA.
June 8th, 2004 at 9:56 pm
It would be interesting to read the text of the judgement if you were willing to post it online.